It is also my desire that those who have become nonbelievers will respond with a yes to Jesus. New IFB Beliefs. A one-foot ruler, or its equivalent in a paddle, is a sufficient alternative. Prove that you are bigger, tougher, more patiently enduring and are unmoved by his wailing. If you're unfamiliar with the beliefs and practices of the Independent Fundamental Baptists, some of them are: The King James Version is the only true Word of God; all other translations of the Bible are the work of the devil. The person should go to the pastor, and the pastor will talk to the offender. Jerry Falwell, the founder of Liberty University, came out of this tradition, but he was quicklydisownedby his fellow separatist Baptists when he decided to get involved in politics. I vaguely recognize some of the standards that you mentioned, but not to the extreme that you have described them. To question the sovereignty of the pastor is to disturb God's order and invite upon oneself separation from the church, and therefore from the very source of salvation and hope. I wondered how in the world that man could look at his wife much less have sex with her because why would you defile such a woman who looked so sheepish and innocent!! For the larger child, a belt or larger tree branch is effective. Baptist. KJV was the only Bible in English, and that is the stand I intend to die on. Landover, MD 20785. In your cynical statement about the seemingly unseen book of rules, you failed to mention that they ultimately came from a God who loves you, and has your best interest at heart. Say the name of that group several times, slowly, and let it all sink in New. If you need to flag this entry as abusive. Feel free to add your own additions to the Independent Fundamentalist Baptist Rule Book. And not to tell anyone. Toledo, Maumee, Bowling Green, Lima, Findlay all relatively large communities. Don't hold it against me. There's something going on that wasn't here before. He may not be able to sleep, but he can be trained to lie there quietly. Single. You ought to repent of this attitude and behavior while you are yet alive and repair your relationship with a God who undoubtedly still loves you, and stop taking an active hand in encouraging others to sin against a Holy God and ensuring their damnation. Autonomy of local churches: each church is independent. So there is some good to the IFB movement. 6.) Thank the almighty for the military to fix that shiz, lol. Baptism means that a believer is bodily immersed in water followed by being raised up out of the water again. Baptism therefore represents the Gospel, which consists of the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus. (And yes, martial arts are ok, even though they originated from Asian sources; well win those yellow devils to Jesus, eventually). God changes his mind several times in the Bible. You could look into resolutions by Fundamental Baptist Fellowship International or World Congress of . God has greatly blessed this ministry, which now averages nearly 3,000 a week in attendance. Like the millions of others around the country who need to read these stories, they wont be able to unless they subscribe to a newspaper hundreds of miles from where they live. (this one is uncommon but not unheard of). (3) Megachurch leaders face the ordinary temptations but also extraordinary pressure to cover up problems, knowing that a sniff of scandal will summon packs of critical reporters. And like everyone else in the world you want that love to mean something, to be incorporated into and desired by something worthy of it. It really is that simple. Thou shalt not ever drink alcohol, unless its done in secret and confessed as sin on Sunday. If I do Ill comment on this comment with details. He and his wife have six grown children and thirteen grandchildren. The Official Independent Baptist Rulebook, Known in Some Churches as Church Standards Thou shalt obey the pastor at all times Thou shalt obey all adults at all times if you are a child or teenager Thou shalt obey your husband at all times if you are a woman Thou shalt obey your parents at all times The American Ideas Institute is a nonprofit, non-partisan 501(c)(3) organization based in Washington, D.C. 2022 The American Conservative, a publication of The American Ideas Institute. Jesus gave us the command to preach the Gospel and also to baptize those who have believed on Jesus. True Independent Fundamental Baptist Churches uphold the purest teachings of the early church as revealed in the New Testament." . All articles free to share and God bless! Pastor Stacey Shiflett finally had enough: For Shiflett, the issue was personal. * This paywall nonsense is unnecessary, counter-productive, and really disrespectful of the papers investigative team. The reason why Im so fervent, so passionate about it this morning is because I relived all of those feelings of what its like to be abused and the one that does the abuse is the one that always comes out the other side smelling like a rose and goes down the road to another church so he can do it again to somebody else.. This is a difficult question to answer because IFB is not a denomination, and each church is independent, but there are Fundamentalist fellowships and congresses which have met on rare occasion and have mentioned Calvinism. The Baptist church started in the 17th century in America. The New IFB is an attempt to revive the former glory and orthodoxy of the Independent Fundamental Baptists, a movement that arose in the mid-20 th century in reaction to fears that mainstream. Thanks! A friendly fellowship group for members of local New Testament Independent Baptist churches. Thousands have come to the saving knowledge of Jesus Christ because one man followed in obedience where the Lord led. They usually have a loose association with other Baptist churches, but they are self-governed, not governed by the association. Thou shalt go to KFC on Sundays after services. Generally speaking (and this differs greatly from church to church) Independent Baptists and Southern Baptists tend to have about the same doctrinal stance. Jesus gives his own list in the Sermon on the Mount and Matthew 24/25. The Star-Telegram counted 187 independent fundamental Baptist churches and affiliated institutions that had been affected by sexual abuse allegations. It upheld what it believed to be. Preacherboys should watch it in the college gym; anywhere else is worldly. Much of this movement was a response to the so-called neo-evangelical movement. Reached by phone, Giovanelli said he had no comment and hung up. A bit later can you guess where this is going? They controlled the process except for the final approval. You brought the goods to the table. Now, gentlemen we have a problem in the Independent Baptist movement. They didn't sacrifice who they were. The philosophy is you dont air your dirty laundry in front of everyone. Maybe you would. The Official Independent Baptist Rulebook, Known in Some Churches as Church Standards. The network of churches and schools has often covered up the crimes and helped relocate the offenders, an eight-month Star-Telegram investigation has found. Pastors think if they keep it on the down-low, it wont impact anyone. Apr 26, 2017. Hed twice been a victim of attempted sexual misconduct in the church world. According to the Pew Forum on Religious and Public Life, there are. And hold him there until he is surrendered. Please be advised that this rulebook is subject to change at the whim of the pastor. They insisted upon that ignoble facade despite the too-clear harm it was causing. Pastors of large churches and leaders of fundamentalist institutions such as Bob Jones, John R. Rice, and Jack Hyles still identified with the label fundamentalist. This movement was characterized by a staunch commitment to biblical orthodoxy filteredthrough the King James Bible, an adherence to second-degree separation or that idea that Christians must separate themselves frombothunbelievers (the world)andfellow conservative Protestants who did not separate sufficiently enough from unbelievers (Billy Graham and the rest of the neo-evangelicals fell into this second category), and a propensity for strong white preachers who ran independent congregations that were not accountable to denominations. Only the KJV will be used in this group; please check . They preferred to remain ignorant of evidence suggesting that something in the air around the plant was giving them cancer. ', (And since weve mentioned Bob Jones twice now, we should also mention that he was above all else a white supremacist. Your word is final. The Lordship controversy and misrepresenting the Lordship preachers. The fundamentals first, then warp the bible to fit the fundamentals, and all gods people said.amen. 2023 BuzzFeed, Inc. All rights reserved. Let me stress here at the beginning that this is not about churches affiliated with the Southern Baptist Convention; those Baptist churches are thought to be too liberal by the independent fundamentalists. Why does Jesus need you to speak for him, Cathy? After I graduated from that school I didnt wear a skirt for 2 years at my secular university! #1. And while we only memorized verses in the King James Version and lots of them and used the KJV in Sunday services, we were also allowed and even encouraged to read the NIV and other more accessible translations. One particularly painful experience of nursing mothers is the biting baby. The Star-Telegram discovered at least 412 allegations of sexual misconduct in 187 independent fundamental Baptist churches and their affiliated institutions, spanning 40 states and Canada. The number of articles in the multi-part series exceeds the number of free articles non-subscribers are permitted to read each month. More than 200 people current or former church members, across generations shared their stories of rape, assault, humiliation and fear in churches where male leadership cannot be questioned. , I was brought up in evangelical churches which clung to much of this dogma. As I once told a liberal congregation, the IFB church I grew up in had an eleventh commandment in their Bibles, Thou shalt not [fill in the blank]. Sarcasm, yes, however, I swear they half the time they invented it as they went along. Finally, now, it's time for you to dance to your own song. (The mind of an 18 year old girl that had been sort of bad with many boys in high school, shame on me) Your pastor is burdened for America & hasnt slept since 1976. He did not respond to specific questions that were sent to him. 5.) Explore the world's faith through different perspectives on religion and spirituality! If, after putting him down, you remember he just woke up, do not reward his complaining by allowing him to get up. In Christ alone. Although the decentralized nature of Protestantism makes statistics very hard to find, weve particularly found opportunities for abuse and cover-ups in three kinds of situations. 2. However, many of these churches have affiliations through theological colleges or pastoral friendships. Especially about another member of the church, said Josh Elliott, a former member of Vineyards Oklahoma City church. Unlike the Catholic Church, the fundamental Baptist church considers itself to be made up of independent entities. A bit later, concerned about creeping liberalism in that association, it split away to join the GARB (the General Association of Regular Baptists no, really, thats a thing). You can email Bruce via the Contact Form. Independent. If your neighbor saw you leaving the Cinemaplex, he wouldnt know what movie you had watched, leading him to have questions about your faith. 7 reviews. And then the other philosophy is its wrong to say anything bad about another preacher.. For this reason IFB churches vigorously renounce the idea that IFB constitutes a denomination: each church, they hold, is a kingdom unto itself and obliged to cooperate with exactly no other church body, IFB or otherwise. There is no appreciable moral distinction between homosexuality and bestiality, incest, child molestation or rape. Note how Jerry Falwell Jr. and Liberty University no longer identify as fundamentalist, but as evangelical and note how this assertion is accepted, unquestioned, by other evangelicals. I am far from perfect. Contributors control their own work and posted freely to our site. One of my other professors did allow that saying shoot was okay, as she was used to people from Ohio saying it! This is the Christianity of millions of North Americans. You have all the information you need to attack me for making this statement, but I assure you that there is very little left to attack. Its a philosophy its flawed, said Stacey Shiflett, an independent fundamental Baptist pastor in Dundalk, Maryland. I am certain you are far more intelligent a man than I am, so I do not wish to debate you. She actually got upset! Firstly, I agree with Dr. John R. Rice (1895-1980) that there's no such thing as "The Baptist Church." The Body of Christ is composed of believers from Baptist, Presbyterian, Methodist and numerous other Christian denominations. In 1976, Dr. Jack Trieber was called to pastor this work. To know is to be responsible. Bruce pastored Evangelical churches for twenty-five years in Ohio, Texas, and Michigan. All of it so true and I laughed out loud at some of them!!! It tried to explain and figure out why IFB churches seem to be drying up and closing their doors. Accept no conditions for surrender. How I struggled to free myself from this oppressive thinking. A new website has launched with the aim of helping single New Independent Fundamentalist Baptist (NIFB) find each other for hopes of love and matrimony, with a niche focus and stringent guidelines being a feature, not a bug. And then theres the OTs 600+ laws, including the Ten Commandments. The message is set. Defeat him totally. Im sure that if your God is all about love and grace he will know our hearts better than you and will fully understand in his 3-omni way. Thou shalt not molest children, and if ye do thou shalt confess it to the pastor so he can hide it from the police and threaten the congregation into silence. Any issues, even legal issues, go to the pastor first, not the police. Could someone please explain? Then Hyles would yell from the pulpit that If the barn needed paintingand the men would hoopla with their Bibles waving in the air. No other part of the anatomy (e.g. Thou shalt not work a job as a woman even if thou canst afford the private school and live in a shitty house because your husband spends all his after tax money on the private school and tithing. You loved, and loved, and loved some more. Baptists are one of the few religious groups whose adherents dispute their own beginnings. Become a member and enjoy the very best from The American Conservative in print & digital. But they also have a high regard for the Bible. Seems redundant. Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) Deception - Exposing the Dangerous Teachings of the Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) Denomination Welcome to BaptistDeception.com Edit Exposing the Dangerous Teachings and Traditions of the Independent Fundamental Baptist Denomination Please scroll down to find a list of articles for your convenience. Memo to Kathy: fuck off. Bruce Gerencser, 65, lives in rural Northwest Ohio with his wife of 44 years. This guide to "consistently rewarding every transgression with a switching" (from the book's introduction) has sold more than 670,000 copies. They didn't give over their will over to God. That was weak (cupping ear)..congregation: AMEN (at top of lungs). And out of that love you gave them the best of who you are to do with whatever they felt they needed to. Bruce Gerencser, 65, lives in rural Northwest Ohio with his wife of 44 years. Thou wilt pledge money on the last Sunday evening of every month to the building fund even if you cant pay your rent or mortgage on the first. It was beyond comprehension in my little brain back then. In New York, a couple of Greek Orthodox nuns are protesting the reinstatement of a priest to a parish there after he admitted to unspecified inappropriate conduct with women, and a diocesan spiritual court recommended that he not be returned to that parish. We could literally sit here all day adding standards to this; these guys are constantly changing on a whim. The King James Version is the only true Word of God; all other translations of the Bible are the work of the devil. Dented, maybe, a little -- but definitely not broken. Amendment though shalt say amen during service but only if you are male. You were right; they were wrong; and no sane person in the world would say otherwise. Then, say people who were in attendance, he proceeded to praise Giovanelli. They might as well be Mormons.Sense they add their own rules and Bible.They are acting as a cult its not biblical.Gal1:8 They are teaching false teachings,And not the doctrines of the Bible.They are Just adding their own rules. Praise god amen we were unharmed.except for being fucked mentally for years. And screw 'em if they do. Shame on you, sir. Subscribe for as little as $5/mo to start commenting on Rods blog.